Erased posting from LifeJourney... ------------------------------------------------------------------- LifeJourney.48.42: Barry Kort (moulton) Fri, 29 May 1998 01:42:24 CDT There is no Common Ground, Jak. You win. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Kai has given me permission to post only in the LifeJourney Meditation topic... That was a Freudian Slip. I'm leaving it as I typed it. I feel betrayed. --Barry Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 02:10:48 -0500 To: Barry Kort From: Kai Hagen Subject: Re: Our Agreement Cc: kai@ohio.river.org (Kai Hagen), bkort@musenet.org (Barry Kort) Barry, At 1:21 AM -0400 5/29/98, Barry Kort wrote: >Hi Kai, > > I don't know how you got that particular impression. I thought I was quite > > clear. I was going to suspend you access (remember, I even made a reference > > to changing your password), but altered the plan after speaking with you to > > accomodate your reasonable desire to participate in the mediation topic > > created in LifeJourney. >When you changed your plan and asked me if I would agree not to post >in any topic save LJ, I understood that you were not going to suspend >my access to read, but that you would trust me to keep my word not >to post outside of LJ. That's why I then asked you to enforce Res >Judicata in those conferences where I would be a silent reader, and >we discussed the procedure whereby I would alert you by E-Mail to >postings about me or to me that appeared in those venues during the >interregnum. Those terms would not have made sense to discuss unless >I was being allowed to read in silence. I appreciate that you may have interpreted things that way, but I am absolutely certain of what I was thinking and feel fairly confident about how I expressed it. I guess our conversation did take too many detour if you missed that. In any case, the way I posted it in Meta is the way it is. You can post in LifeJourney related to the mediation topic. You may not post anywhere else during the time it takes for the LifeJourney hosts to complete things there. At that time, you will have your access to the Cafe suspended for a minimum of two weeks, subject to further discussion with the hosts. This comlicated arrangement is the alternative to having had your access to the Cafe suspended already. Your ability to read Meta and alert me by e-mail was just for this interim period. > > It was for that two or three days (or so) that I would wait before > > suspending your access entirely for at least two weeks. I clearly told you > > that I would follow up with you about the precise time period any any > > conditions or expectations I would have about the nature of your > > participation after your access was re-established. > > Kai >That was not my understanding, after you agreed to let retain access >under the terms we discussed. >Kindly, post this message in Hosts and in Meta, Kai. >Regards, >Barry > > At 9:18 PM -0400 5/28/98, Barry Kort wrote: > > >Kai, > > >Here is my understanding of our agreement tonight, per our phone call > > >just completed... > > >I agree not to post in any conference, save LifeJourney, for an > > >indeterminate period of time, pending resolution of the issues there > > >and pending resolution of other issues not involving LifeJourney. > > >In return, I understand you will intervene to bar the posting of > > >of any commentary, questions, or discussions to me or about me in > > >any all all conferences where I am silent, pursuant to the principal > > >of Res Judicata. > > >I understand that I may read silently in other conferences during > > >this interregnum, and raise to your attention by E-Mail any postings > > >directed to me or about me that would normally call for a response, > > >and that you (or a designated host) will intervene appropriately and > > >as effectively as practical to limit them, up to and including the > > >possibility of hiding (but not erasing) them, notifying the poster > > >of the inappropriateness of such postings during this interregnum, > > >and taking whatever additional steps seem reasonable and appropriate > > >to secure compliance both with my wishes and with the guiding principal > > >of Res Judicata. > > >Is my understanding of our agreement in concert with yours, Kai? > > >Barry